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Is Linear Stepper Motor necessary? (2 replies)

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Is Linear Stepper Motor necessary?
This is Meng meng@gtwmotor.com from GTW Motor supplier of Linear Stepper Motors, I am thinking is Stepper Motor with Leadscrew necessary for a Reprap builder?

Cheap unipolar NEMA 17 motors in Québec (1 reply)

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I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this, move it to a more appropriate one if needed. I can't seem to find a "good deals" forums.


[www.acceselectronique.ca] currently has this motor in stock in all four physical locations, however it's not in their website inventory:

Japan Servo Co. Ltd.
KP4M2-008
1.8 deg/step
5 wires (unipolar)

I can't seem to find a datasheet for these, but they're only 4$CAD. I asked about the inventory and most stores had at least 50, some nearly over 400 in stock.

Be warned, however. Check each motor by hand to "feel" the steps of the motors. A lot of the motors I tested had almost no "step" in their spin, others almost felt like they had loose parts or debris inside preventing the motor to spin smoothly/correctly. After about 15 minutes of testing I was able to find what I think are four good motors with identical torque.

edit: I found a datasheet for KP4M2-203, those are 12V motors but the coils of the motors I bought (KP4M2-008) are 75 ohms (coil-to-common) instead of the 37.5 ohms listed in the datasheet.

May not be good enough for a RepRap according to some, but could still be quite useful for other CNC projects, especially at that price, size and 1.8 deg/step.

ideal PG35L, custom spec ? (no replies)

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The PG35L are nice geared steppers (search for the tag pg35l on thingiverse)

But today I could talk with someone from e-minebea, I was just asking for a price and they offered to eventually tweak the specs of the motor to better suit the application.

That make me wondering, the standard PG35L-048 (or D48) works ok, but if we could change them, what would be it's ideal specs ?

(I don't know how the inductance/resistance/etc. play in the motors capacities, but by example wouldn't it be possible to keep the same torque or almost, and lower the heat ? Avoiding the necessity of an added fan)

Controller for stepper motor bought off Ebay!! (2 replies)

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Hi folks,

I'm fairly new to electronics and stepper motors and am looking to get started by experimenting with building my own control circuitry for a stepper motor ... (and eventually having a go at building my own CNC machine in the future).

I found some cheapish stepper motors on Ebay to experiment with. They are these: Sanyo Denki units. However, after doing a bit of googleing on how to control these stepper motors I found that some of the Sanyo Denki units only work with special controllers.

My question is: would I be able to control these from a simple home-made controller such as a PIC or an AVR microprocessor? I have a basic understanding of how stepper motors work and have used an 8-bit AVR microcontroller to drive a 4 wire stepper from an epson printer before. Would I be able to control this stepper in that way too?

Setting up a controlled paper feeder (5 replies)

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This may be an overly ambitious project for stepping my toes into the world of stepper motors, but so be it.

I'm looking to build a paper feeder to keep pushing fresh heavy weight sheets out to get laser etched.

I've ruled out brush motors as I understand keeping the rotation of brush motors in sync is a whole other feat in its self and I'm afraid 2 motors out of sinc would either tear the paper or cause a paper jam.

So I'm looking at stepper motors to run this feeder, about 6 ft long and have it to move at a rate of 1ft per second from the pile of paper to infront of the laser.

I would be most appreciative if anyone can recomment a fair motor to at least prototype with, able to turn a 1ft wide roller likely spinning at 12rpm with a 1" diameter to pass the sheet of paper at 1ft/second and be able to signal if the sheet is jammed to avoid damage to the motor or tearing.

Thank you,

Correlating ABCD to A+ A- B+ B- (1 reply)

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Hi folks,

Title pretty much says it all. I understand the convention of A+ A- B+ B-, which maps wires to wire colors on datasheets, and I've confirmed that A and B are in fact A and B with a simple continuity test. What I haven't been able to confirm after a couples hours searching is whether AB is A- A+, or the reverse.

I understand that I can simply hook it all up and watch the motors to see if the polarity is correct. But couldn't it be simpler? It just seems like the convention ABCD could match up to A+ A- B+ B- more transparently. I've found that preparing molex connectors is the most unpleasant part of my Prusa build so far. I have the color codes matched to A- A+ B+ B- for my motors, and ABCD specified on the (in this case) Printrboard docs. Do I really have to figure it out by trial and error, pulling wires back out of the Molex pin housings and swapping them around until they work?

Thanks for any insights!

Help connecting Astrosyn p700 stepper motor driver (1 reply)

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Hey guys
I have recently purchased an Astrosyn p700 unipolar stepper motor driver for a project. Im not much familiar with stepper motors and and stepper motor drivers and I was hoping if someone could be kind enough to help me connecting it to the 4-lead unipolar stepper motor.
Urgent!

Thanks
Best regards

how to update the reprap wiki? (4 replies)

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i was just browsing for more info on steppers, was comparing all the stuff i could possibly buy.

the stepper motor lists has a 70Ncm motor in it from makerbot, but from the makerbot website this is no longer offered, it now only has 28Ncm. so pls someone update it?

Wire size for NEMA 17's, Current draw? (4 replies)

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What is the current draw of a NEMA 17? Can I use CAT5 cable or similar to wire the motors? Or should I use something larger?

Stepper Motor making weird sound and acting funny (4 replies)

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Hi, very new to this 3D printing scene and have worked my way throught this wiki. I am calibrating the motor but the X platter motor is making this high pitch sound every sec like a heart beating. It also only move x mm a sec when I tell it to move 10mm but not the whole 10mm at a single go and it have a small kick at each move where it move an extra 1-2mm. Y is working as it should but X is acting like it's going to die soon. The "symptom" is similiar to how I would describe a motor would react if it isn't getting enough juice to power it correctly.


problem with hammering noise in stepper motor and not moving X-axis (5 replies)

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Hi everybody,
Can somebody help in problem with hammering noise in stepper motor and not moving X-axis?
Story about Mendel Prusa, and it is -
Sprinter latest version, with RAMPS 1.4, and Mega 2560 board.
Sprinter compiled by Arduino 1.0.1.
It was some bugs in compilation which was obvious:
In Sd2Card.cpp:
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#if defined(ARDUINO) && ARDUINO >= 100
#include "Arduino.h"
#else
#include
#endif
====================================
In SdFile.cpp:
===================================
#if ARDUINO >= 100
size_t SdFile::write(uint8_t b)
#else
void SdFile::write(uint8_t b)
#endif
{
#if ARDUINO >= 100
return (size_t) write(&b, 1);
#else
write(&b, 1);
#endif
}
===================================
I also disable SD card support in Configuration.h
I confirm wiring 1.4 RAMPS is like RAMPS 1.3.

Then I upload firmware. Start REPRAP host – it barked with messages like “dude respond with error” “timeout” and reprap host was not functional (sometime I did see reading of a temperature, sometime I was able to switch on heater on a bed, but no movement on any motors). Searching Forums shows “Yep! This is a bug in reprap, but let fix it in ReplicatorG first”.
Ok – I download and configured “ReplicatorG” and started to work.
In control panel I was able to move X-axis and Z-axes. I Adjust current on driver of stepper motor board to make bed move with less sound, and also adjust current on Z-axis to move up and down without jumps and noise.

Here come the problem: X-axes is makes hammering noise and jumps left-right without horizontal movements.
To solve I tried:
- I swapped X-axes with Y-axis connectors to stepper motors – well after swapping hammering comes from Y-axis, and X-axis is moving perfectly.
- Then I swapped (from original configuration) stepper motor drivers – X-axis is still hammering with different drivers.
- I tried to adjust current on a stepper motor driver for X-axis without any success.
- I checked signal on driver – direction pin looks working. To see another signals looks like need to plug oscilloscope.

That four experiments shows that the problem not in motors wiring, and not in stepper motor drivers, but ether in-
a) In firmware (wrong executing G-codes ?)
b) In wiring from Mega 2650 to RAMPS 1.4 ( pin 54, 38?)
c) In ReplicatorG (wrong commands send to Mega 2650?)

Or may be somebody knows different reason for this?

Alex Dobrianski

Would missed steps offset zeroed home position? (6 replies)

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I'm troublshooting a 4 axis TB6560 setup.

I am running a code that is 50 concentric circles that have an increasing diameter of 2 mm.

When running the gcode, the y axis dropping a step in each circle, which i can see as the motors turn, and there is a flat spot created in the circles.

Shouldn't dropped steps offset the zeroed home position after a code run? Machine always comes back to the correct 0,0,0 position after several code runs.

More Motor Problems (13 replies)

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So, after buying all new motors, double checking all the connections on my sanguinololu board, and rewiring everything, I am still unable to get my motors to budge. At one point, and only on this one occasion, one motor started to vibrate but wouldn't turn and as soon as I turned the trimpot up a bit, it stopped. This has been the only indication of life I have gotten. I turned the trimpots for all the motors back to see if perhaps I was letting too much power through. Nothing. I turned them all up just in case they weren't getting enough power. Nothing. I checked my power supply, everything seems fine. The only other problem right now is that the hot end won't heat up but I'm pretty certain it is due to the fact that the whole thing has been holding on by a thread since I bought it. I've double checked the wiring and checked my motor wiring against the wiring of the seller's and according to the seller, it should be working. What have I missed?

If it matters (perhaps there was a bad batch, or something?) I bought my stepstick drivers from botronicz.

Y skipping (6 replies)

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so tonight while printing my Y axis started grinding/skipping after about an hour into a print. The last time this happened was when i first build the printer and i was told to up the current of the trimmer by 1/8 turn and it never did it again until today. And i have printed for many 6+ hour days with no issues. I have a 40mm fan blowing across the ramps and the drivers have heat sinks on them. Is my driver bad? does it need to be turned up a bit more? oh and belt is ok not too tight not too lose

Any advice would be appreciated

6 wire unipolar stepper performance (5 replies)

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So I just bought a bunch of these

[www.mpja.com]

for $1 each!

They are 12V, 48 Ohm unipolar motors with six wires and a rated torque of 42 oz/in.

I am currently playing around with them. Wiring them up as a bipolar motor and leaving out the center taps gives me motion but very low torque at 12V. This is expected since the resistance is double what it would be under a unipolar wiring scheme. So I'll need a 24V supply at least for these motors. My question is what can I expect from performance?

By my naive Ohms law calculations a 24V supply should bring current to the levels of the original 12V unipolar drive conditions (about 0.25 A), while doubling power dissipation. My questions are as follows.

1. What happens to torque since both sides of each coil are on at the same time? (Rated torque is 42 oz/in)

2. Will I need to limit the current to less than 0.25A due to heat issues? (I'm thinking twice the power dissipated might end up overheating the motor or blowing coils. )

3. What about top speed?

lower the amperage on steppers? (2 replies)

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Hello everybody!

I have a couple of questions.
I have some steppers and I can't find the datasheet, even from the manufacturer. Maybe the motors are a little old (although mine are new).

The label says:

89.908.001
PAS STEP: 1.8° R: 0.7Ω
U/Ph: 1.68V
Crouzet

They looks like a NEMA23, but slightly different. The "front" is 56x56mm, 47x47mm between holes; depth is 40mm. The shaft is 19mm long, 6mm diameter. I am attaching a couple of pictures for reference.
[attachment 10224 stmotor.jpg]
[attachment 10225 motor_dimensions.jpg]

do anyone have any information on these motors?


The other thing is that they are 1.68V and 0.7 Ohms per coil, which would give 2.4A.

I think that 2.4A is a little too much for RAMPS+Pololu, so I was thinking if it's possible to add a 0.5 Ohm resistor in series with the motor winding,
to get something like this: 1.68V / (0.7R + 0.5R) = 1.4A

will this work?
I'm assuming that probably will lost some torque, but I think that these motors have more that enough.

Thanks,
Biomech

Steppers too slow (1 reply)

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Hey All,

I'm using Vexta stepper motors and they're moving way too slowly. I can't seem to pump up the speed on them and I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I'm testing with an easy stepper board (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9402) with a power supply of 12V, 1A. That max speed I can get right now is about .3 rotations per second, and I'm hoping to get 5-10x that fast. Anyone suggest a fix? Do I need new motors?

Here are the motors: [www.interinar.com]
I'm using the bipolar wiring scheme as listed here: [www.interinar.com]

10 wires steeper motor (3 replies)

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Hello all,

I have this 10 wires steeper motor and i would like to use it for my reprap extruder.
Can i use this type of steeper with pololu steeper driver ? how to connect it ?? how to find the right way to identify the wires ???

this is pictures of it :




and on the motor, the only i can see is :

"BERGER AHR
West-germany
Mb 893.003 c
U.S. Patent No 3866104
P/N 100115 "



please, can someone help me with this ???

Thank's a lot

AccelStepper too Slow (1 reply)

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Has anyone had problems with the AccelStepper library being too slow? I've been tweaking the acceleration and maxspeed, and I really can't get a stepper above .5 rotations per second. When I do a basic digitalWrite sketch, my steppers are moving at the appropriate speed, but AccelStepper is way too slow. Just want to see if I'm missing something here. Any suggestions?

Applied Motion stepper configuration (1 reply)

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Hi all,
I am building a printed 'eggbot' and want to use two steppers that i got recently. The steppers are made by applied motion products and have 8 wires. I can configure the stepper as unipolar, bipolar serial or bipolar parallel. What is the correct way of conficuration to connect them to polulu stepper dirvers?
Thanks for your help!
Dick
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